Dutch is becoming hard to find
fast, but there's also an exclusive version of him,
Sideshow. This version (reviewed
earlier by Jeff Parker) includes the radio headset.
There's also an exclusive version of the Predator,
again carried by Sideshow. It comes with a
second removable mask (sans light up feature) that is not battle
damaged. Both of these are sold out at the site, but you can get on the
this review is of all three figures, I'll be focusing primarily on the
Predator, especially in the photos. Jeff Parker did a great guest review of Billy
and Dutch, if you'd like even more info and photos on those two.
Packaging - ***1/2
Hot Toys never does BAD packaging, but occasionally the do something to
Here, the Billy and Dutch
packages look as good as usual, with nifty cover sleeves with great
graphics and a decent text on the interior five panel box.
The Predator gets a bit of an
extra special treatment, with an additional plastic slip cover over the
regular sleeve. This cover is embossed with the shimmery appearance of
a cloaked Predator. It's a cool effect, and certainly sets the package
Unfortunately, this is one of
those times they decided to go with twisties, and I hate twisties. You
can't get four stars from me with twisties, sorry.
Sculpt - Dutch, Predator ****; Billy **1/2
start with the great - Dutch is amazing. If you're looking for a
fantastic Arnie sculpt, this is it. Man, I so wish we were getting
original Terminator figures from Hot Toys - could you imagine how good
the Arnie T-800 would be?
This head sculpt is all Arnie at
best, with the trademark skin texturing and finely sculpted hair. The
stubbly beard looks amazing, and the scale of the head to the oversized
body is perfect.
Dutch has a sculpted skin over
torso, but this isn't the first time Hot Toys has done that. However,
they gave Dutch an all new sculpted chest, much larger than the usual,
making it look much more like Arnold.
He has three hands,
and these are sculpted with gloves. They work best with the gun and
cigar, and they are a little too open to hold either the knife or
machete particularly well.
Of course he stands great on his
and is scaled nicely to fit in with other sixth scale figures,
especially other Hot Toys lines.
The Predator is also a work of
art. Here you have far more sculpting of course, with the armor and
full body. The head sculpt looks fantastic, and the rough machined
appearance of the armor looks perfect. The deadly hands are sculpted in
a menacing pose, with a second right that's intended for a soft grip,
and two fisted hands.
Unlike previous Predators, you
to put the mesh clothing and armor on this figure. That's a huge
improvement, as assembling my Lost Predator was quite a chore.
like previous versions though, he comes with two sets of sculpted
mandibles or jaws. One set is wide open, while the other has the fangs
tucked in. The tucked in version works great with the included helmet,
but the wide mouth won't fit under the additional armor.
stands about 12 1/2" tall, Predator has an extra half inch on him.
However, that's still a little shorter than the aforementioned Lost
Predator. Although he's a smidge shorter, he doesn't look it, because
his shoulders actually sit higher. He does not have the annoying long
neck of the previous Predators, and that's a huge plus. The head sits
much lower on the shoulders, and he looks far better for it. This means
the sculpted soft rubber dreadlocks fill in around his neck and
shoulders much better, leaving far less of a gap.
There are a
lot of tiny parts here too, including small hoses and wires. Be very
careful when working with him, as it's easy to damage something with
too much force or a quick movement.
Then there's Billy. Some folks are going to say I'm being too rough on
him, but for me his sculpt fails on two fronts.
this isn't Billy. Now, you may recall we had this same conversation
back when Hot Toys did their Kane figure from Aliens. They couldn't get
the actor's sign off on licensing, so the head sculpt couldn't look
like the actual character. The saving grace there was that Kane came
with a Alien covered mug as well, and most folks were going to use that
head sculpt any way.
Here, there's no saving grace. The box says
Billy, but this isn't Billy. It doesn't matter that there's a legal
reason - if the box says Billy, the figure better look like Billy. If
this is going t be 'some random dude who's skull was ripped out by a
Predator', than the box should say that.
That means I'm docking
them just as much for this head sculpt as if they had actually tried to
make it look like him and failed. Yes, the intent is different - but
the final result isn't any different.
If you don't mind that
issue, then you should still have an issue with my second quibble -
Billy lacks the usual attention to detail that Hot Toys gives their
portraits. He has the usual smooth mannequin skin, and the lips, hair
and eyes don't have the kind of life-like appearance that we've come to
expect. Hot Toys has set the bar high, but that can be a double edged
Billy only has the set of sculpted hands he comes
wearing, and these are designed to work with the guns, not really the
knives. He can manage to hold them, but it's not as natural as you
BTW, I noticed too late that in a couple of the
Predator photos his left mandible was getting a little loose from his
face. That's my fault, since it can fit tight. I did find that it
loosened up on its own as I was handling him though, so be careful you
don't have one fall off and get lost.
I do have one complaint
about the Predator, but it's fairly minor and fixable. The blades on
his right arm were a bit bent in the packaging, but using some hot
water I was able to straight them out.
Paint - Predator ****;
Dutch, Billy ***;
you have any of the previous Hot Toys Predators, you know how amazing
the paint job is. They get the complex patterns on the skull and body
down perfect, and manage to make the jaws, mandibles and fangs even
more threatening than they already are.
impressed with the spot pattern on the skull of this version. It's not
quite a perfect pattern, making it look far more realistic. They varied
the edges slightly, as well as the spot size, getting that look just
right. I also really like the slightly translucent yellowish
appearance to the outer fangs in both sets of mandibles. Clearly, oral
hygiene is not big on their planet. Them again, kissing would be pretty
much out of the question with a set of choppers like that.
paint work is solid, but nothing like the best work that Hot Toys can
produce. The hair line is a bit rough, and the eyes lack the sparkle
and life-like appearance you expect from them. In fact, the pupils on
mine are not quite round, with some slop from the white riding up on
the eye. I was pretty surprised to see that, especially after just
getting the Godfather.
Still, the skin tone is
excellent, and the
paint work on the beard stubble is amazing. They also got just the
right amount of camo paint on his face, not overdoing it but still
making it obvious.
And then there's poor Billy
again. The thicker
paint and heavy camo don't do a lot to help ease the slightly less than
perfect head sculpt. On top of that, there's more slop here than I'm
accustomed to with a Hot Toys product, including poor cut lines between
the loose hair strands and the head band, and what looks like a glue
spot or odd gloss area on the band itself. His eyes also lack any real
life, and again, and the edges of the white aren't quite as clean as
we've seen. Hot Toys has set the bar high in this category too -
perhaps even higher than in the sculpting category. This is still B
work compared to other companies, but it's not up to Hot Toys' own
Articulation - Predator ***1/2;
Dutch ***; Billy **
Now, before you get all freaky on me over Billy's week showing here,
understand it's because he had a wrist peg snap off right out of the
box. If that hadn't happened, he would have score almost as good as
Dutch. But it did, and I have to take such things into account. It
doesn't help that snapping wrist pegs seems to be a bane for Hot Toys,
and this is at least the fourth time I've had it happen with one of
their figures. At this kind of price point, it's simply not acceptable.
being said, Billy's articulation worked pretty well considering the
upper body rubber suit. He has the usual excellent Hot Toys
articulation underneath there, but the torso is limited at the
shoulders, neck and elbows by the thick 'skin'. Since Billy's
arms are exposed, it does help his appearance, but you do have to be
careful when posing him. Extreme poses of the shoulders or elbows could
result in tearing the skin, and the figure comes with a little
instruction paper that warns you of the possibility.
the upper body skin too, but he has a modification - his shoulders are
not covered completely. The skin is a separate piece on his torso and
arms, allowing the arm to fully turn. You still have to be careful with
the elbows though.
He also has the same giraffe
neck we saw
previously with the Hot Toys Rocky. It looks fine fully dressed, but
strip him down and it's a bit too obvious. It's one of those situations
where you can't have everything - look good in the clothes and have a
long neck without them, or look good without them, and have a stumpy
looking neck when he's dressed. I'm going to be keeping Dutch fully
dressed in my display, so I don't mind the long neck, but your mileage
The articulation on the Predator
is top notch. As I
mentioned earlier, the neck is shorter, but that hasn't hurt it's
mobility. The other joints all work extremely well, allowing for deep
stances and natural poses.The shoulder cannon turns and tilts, the
blades slide in and out on his right arm, and the control panel opens
up on his left. Not only that, but the cool backpack thingamabob is a
separate piece, and pops in and out easily. It even opens up to reveal
his medical kit!
Outfit - Predator ****;
Dutch, Billy ***1/2
As I mentioned, the Predator comes clothed this time, so there's no
need to add the body suit and armor. It fits tightly, is adjustable so
that you can get more extreme poses, and much of it is removable as
well. Both the sculpt and paint on the armor is just about perfect,
giving it a worn, burnished look that's extremely realistic.
Dutch and Billy have excellent
uniforms as well, with one minor exception. More on that at the end.
are wearing camo pants, and these snap at three locations at the waist,
not just one. There's two snaps at the zipper, and a third a little way
down the belt line. This third interior snap helps keep the pants very
snug at the waist.
Dutch has on a cam tank top that
is made from
a stretchy material. It fits the 'arnie chest' tightly, and looks
terrific. Over this he wears a brown jacket, complete with real pockets
and properly scaled zippers (the one on the arm pocket even works). I
did have a bit of an issue with the collar, as mine came out of the
package pretty wrinkled and sticking out at an odd angle, but a quick
iron over it and that will get fixed.
Over all that, he also has
a vest with pockets and loops. This is held together with a couple
small velcro straps, and these do have a tendency to pop open. However,
the vest looks amazingly good, and the working pockets are a nice touch.
keep his pants up, Dutch has a belt, as well as a second belt for his
knife and gun holsters. Both belts work well, and fit around his waist
Billy doesn't have quite as many
layers, but his outfit
is still pretty damn cool. He starts out with his trademark hat, and
this is one of the rare occasions where a sculpted head looks better
wearing a separate hat than not. There's a thin elastic chin strap,
which looks great pulled up around the hat itself.
He also has
those camo pants and belt, but instead of a second belt for the
holsters, he has a harness over his flak vest, which can hold his
various pouches, canteens, and grenades.
The flak vest looks great, but
there is a very oversized zipper hidden behind a velcro closure. Keep
what's the problem with their outfits? Both have the same issue - itty
bitty boots. The realism of the sculpt is great, but it's sad to see
two big guys with such small feet.
Accessories - Dutch ****, Billy,
Another outstanding set of accessories, with all three of these
characters well loaded down.
does the best. He has his M16 with mounted pump action grenade
launcher. The pump works, the magazine is removable, the front sight
flips up, and even the side of the chamber opens up. The sculpt and
paint are excellent - you couldn't ask for a better weapon.
course, Dutch needs more than that to take down enemies. He has his
1911 Colt as well, and the magazine is removable too. The scale is
excellent, and the pistol fits perfectly in it's included canvas
There's also a large bowie
knife, and this goes in a
sheath on his other hip. The holster has a fairly large tie down on his
leg, with proper plastic buckle, but the sheath only has a thin elastic
band that's tied off. Be particularly careful with it!
think Jeff mentioned it, but there's also a small rod that fits in a
slot on the front of the knife sheath. I don't remember what Dutch used
it for in the flick, but I'm sure a savvy reader will let me know!
EDIT - Jeff did mention it, and
it's the detonator!
knife looks great, and also fits in it's sheath perfectly. The same can
be said of the wicked machete style knife that Dutch carries on his
Dutch comes with two grenades
that you can attach to
his vest, as well as a second left hand that can be used for
gestures...or to hold his cigar. Yes, there's also a cigar! And it can
fit in his mouth too. Damn, these guys are good!
In fact, they
are so good, that the pins can even be removed from the grenades. I'm
telling you, this is the kind of realism you expect at this price point.
has some reuse, including the same pistol, knife, one grenade and
machete. He gets his own unique M16 sculpt, including a pump action
shotgun mounted underneath, and again the pump works, the clip is
removable, and the chamber opens on the side.
His machete holster
is attached to his left hip, and instead of a regular holster for the
pistol, he has a shoulder harness for it. The holster closes with
velcro, which works far better than the usual strap.
with a couple pouches, one large and one small, that can be attached to
his harness, as well as two canteens in canteen bags. All the pouches,
bags, pockets, etc are real and work just great.
is a bit of a trick to attach to his harness. There is an included
piece of faux brown tape, which you cut into strips and then wrap
around the sheath and harness. No, I didn't to it to mine yet, as I
can't display this guy for awhile. But if you check the reference
in this thread, you'll see what I'm talking about. The fake tape is
packed with the instructions on the back of the insert tray.
almost forgot - in fact, when I first posted this review, I had forgot
- but Billy has his juju medicine bag around his neck on a string as
And while the Predator didn't
use a lot of goodies in the first film, he has everything he really
there's a new diorama style display stand. Yes, Billy and Dutch both
have stands too, but theirs are the usual standard black base with name
plate. The Predator gets one complete with rocks, stump, puddle of
slimy jungle water, and ferns! It's a little small, but
considering how good it looks, I'm not complaining. Too much.
can attach the included support, but if you don't want to have the
black stick running up his back, you can skip it and the base looks
none the worse. That's because the connection point is well hidden down
in the rocks.
In the articulation section I
mentioned that the
backpack piece pops out, and I consider this another accessory. Inside,
sculpted and painted, is his medical kit used to fix his wounds. I
hadn't expected this, so it was an excellent surprise!
comes with a blood drenched skull and spine, freshly torn from the
body. The scale here is excellent, much better than the usual sixth
Other trophies hang on two
strings around his torso. These can be removed or adjusted to your
has three additional hands - two fists, and an extra right in mid grip.
With these three and the two open hands, you can do quite a few poses.
there's his battle damaged mask. It fits tightly on his face if you
either remove the mandibles or use the closed set. It does look a tad
large, but that's somewhat expected. Masks on Predators are like
sculpted hats on people - they always end up a little too big.
Light up Feature - ***
The regular version of the Predator includes a battle damaged mask that
has a light up laser. Just like in the film, there's three tiny red
lights to the side of the right eye.
is accomplished with the use of two small batteries (included, but you
have to install them this time), and a short wire which runs from the
mask to the back. You'll thread this wire, very carefully, through his
dreadlocks and plug it in. Then turn on the switch to on, and voila!
did find this to be a bit too dim this time, much more so than past Hot
Toys light up features. I may have bad batteries, or it just may be how
the designed the light, but in any case, mine is less bright than it
should be. It's also very easy to damage, or at least it seems that
way. This is one that's nice to have, but I doubt I'll ever have him
displayed wearing the mask.
Fun Factor - **1/2
Hey, I had a ton of fun with these, and most kids would too...but there
are so many small parts, tiny thread, and easy to lose pieces, that I
wouldn't recommend it. These guys are for the 'big kids'.
Value - ***
While these figures aren't cheap, there's no doubt you're getting your
money's worth plus a little with all the added accessories and
Things To Watch Out For
Everything. These guys
have little strings, pieces of elastic, tiny plastic parts, and lots
and lots of realistic, minute details. All that realism comes at a
price - you have to handle them with extreme care.
mean a wrist should break though, like it did on Billy. While fragility
in tiny parts is to be expected, it's not acceptable for the core body.
Overall - Predator, Dutch ***1/2; Billy ***
There are so many cool extra features to these figures that I could
have included another 20 photos and not shown them all, from the
backpack dealio on the Predator, to the opening chamber on the M16's.
think this is the nicest Predator they've produced, which is saying a
lot. The improvement in the look of the head and neck is a major
contributor, and I'm glad they waited til they had things perfected
before they tackled the one true original. Only the weak light up
feature held him back from a perfect score for me.
Dutch is an
amazing sculpt, right down to the new torso and arm skin. I don't think
he ended up with a four star paint job though, and that's his one
failing. The costume and accessories are amazing, and Hot Toys
attention to detail continues to astound me.
And while Billy has
a problem looking like...well, Billy, he still shows off all that
amazing attention to detail in his exceptional outfit and accessories.
Considering that you'll find him cheaper than the other two, he turns
in a decent overall score. I supposed that if you pretend Billy turned
into a blond surfer who like to say "Yo, dude!" alot, then the portrait
won't bother you as much as it did me.
As I said earlier, I could
have included 20 more photos of these guys and still not covered all
the cool extras and details. While I have my issues with this or that,
it remains that Hot Toys is crushing the sixth scale market with every
Packaging - ***1/2
Sculpting - Dutch, Predator ****; Billy **1/2
Paint - Predator ****; Dutch,
Articulation - Predator ***1/2; Dutch ***; Billy **
Outfit- Predator ****; Dutch, Billy ***1/2
Accessories - Dutch ****, Predator, Billy ***1/2
Light up Feature - ***
Fun Factor - **1/2
Value - ***
Overall - Predator, Dutch ***1/2; Billy ***
Where to Buy -
You have a number of online options:
- you'll have to get on the
wait list at this point, but Sideshow has their exclusive version of Dutch
and exclusive version of the Predator.
- Alter Ego Comics
doesn't have Dutch listed, but the have the Predator at $160, and Billy
at just $112.49.
- Urban Collector
has the Predator at $153, Dutch at $160, and Billy at $140.
- for the UK fans, Forbidden
Planet has Billy for 110 GBP, the Predator for 170 GBP, but
no sign of Dutch.
is also sold out of Dutch and the Predator, but has Billy for $117.
. you can always hit
I've covered tons of Predator related goodies:
- Jeff Parker did a great guest
review of the Dutch and Billy.
- I covered the Hot Toys Lost Predator.
Other sixth scale Predator
- Machiko the She Predator.
- There's also the AvP Cleaner, the Wolf Predator, the very
Battle Damaged Predator 2,
Predator, the first Predator
2, and the Scar
- there's also the McFarlane Scar Predator.
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